Ok, here's the thing. I'm just going to put it out there fir off so there's no confusion. I am very, and maybe oddly, protective of my crust. I have no idea if all pie makers are but to me, it's the most important thing. If the crust isn't spectacular then why turn the filling into a pie? Just spoon it over ice cream or make a sandwich out of it. I plan on experimenting with my crust here, but I am not planning to list my recipe. The way I see it is this: if you need a crust recipe of your own, then find a grandma (yours or someone else's) and get a recipe from her. That what I did, thank you grandma Haunstein.